thanks for that i was thinking about possibly two screwdrivers from the top
if it starts to move its game set & match. the replacement unit is screw tight from the top type which simplifies things.
can anyone help with this please bath waste is leaking & i want to replace it with a new one only problem is can not see the nut access is very cramped i have tried mole grips & stiltsons (just cant get a grip) most local suppliers not being over enthuesiastic to help.