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boiler losing pressure potterton promax

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:48 am
by bwfcboy
Hi,
I bought a new 4 bed detached house from Gladedale builders about 6 months ago. It has a Potterton Promax HE Plus boiler.

Since we moved in, the boiler pressure has always dropped.
It is set to 1.5 bar but within 1 or 2 days it drops to 1 bar, then 3 or 4 days later it drops to 0.5 bar then it slowly reduces towards 0 but never seems to get there. After 2/3 weeks I top it up to 1.5 bar.

To top it up from 0 to 1.5 bar is about `half a pint of water` according to the Engineer who came round.

Initially they said it was air in the system and they bled the rads but it didn`t solve the problem. Now they have resorted to shrugging their shoulders and saying they will have to monitor it.

There are no visible leaks anywhere but somehow its losing pressure.
Other than that it seems to be operating perfectly normally.

Any suggestions anyone? THX

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:02 pm
by htg engineer
Check for leaks again, check all radiator valves, bleed points. Check all accessible pipework, check the boiler itself.

Do any of the radiators not heat right to the top ? bleed to get all the air out of the system.

Check pressure relief discharge isn't passing.

If all seems ok, check the condensate discharge pipe for water when the boiler is turned off, sometimes the secondary heat-ex splits and the system water is lost via the condensate pipe.

If all seems ok, you could add leak sealer to the system which should seal any small leaks, it doesn't take much to drop the system pressure.

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:00 am
by bwfcboy
Hi,
Thanks for the reply.
I did a bit of searching on here yesterday afternoon and made a list of things I thought it could be.

I was trying to find this condensate discharge pipe but I thought it came out of the boiler and to the outside of the house but there is no pipe on the outside wall!

There is one rad in the house that seems to get a small amount of air in from time to time but not a significant amount.

Can you describe what you mean by `pressure relief discharge`. Thats` something I haven`t read about before .

Thank you for taking the time to reply - much appreciated

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:50 pm
by htg engineer
The pressure relief/safety valve, is there to discharge water from the system if the pressure gets too high, this is normally discharged to outside via a 15mm copper pipe or sometimes using the old tank overflow.

Check around the boiler for a 15mm copper pipe going through the wall to outside, then check this for leaks, some people put a balloon on the end to catch any water - and it wont affect the boiler as if it discharges the balloon will either come off the pipe or burst.

Hope this helps

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:41 am
by bwfcboy
thanks again for your update.

there is no pipe coming from the boiler but I think somehow it is linked to a plastic pipe with a plastic cap that is situated (literally) on the other side of the house at floor level. I recall them saying when we moved in that if there was too much pressure in the system then the cap would blow off to release the excess water and pressure.
Only thing is that this is positioned about 30 feet away from the boiler which is an awful long way for water to travel!!??

I intend to have a good look at this tonight. thanks again