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Help Re: radiators
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:09 pm
by wilko
Why is the radiator in my bathroom getting hot, even though the central heating is switched off, only the hot water system is switched on? The radiator is part of the central heating.
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:06 pm
by htg engineer
Gravity Hot Water ??? heat rises - some may travel up the central heating flow - not unusual for some upstairs radiators to get warm.
htg
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:25 pm
by wilko
Thanks for that.
The same radiator has always warmed up with only the hot water system on, but recently it has been getting as hot as when the central heating is turned on, I was wondering why the change?
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:47 pm
by htg engineer
Possibly a build up of limescale etc in the primaries is restricting the flow through the primaries. Water will take the easiest route, this may be the central heating pipes.
htg
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:14 pm
by Skids
Hi Wilko,
Its a 'heat sink'. One Rad in the system is designed not to be turned off, all the rest will/may/should have TRV on them. This one, normally in the bathroom, will take heat away from the system.
Regards
Skids
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:31 pm
by wilko
thanks
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:45 pm
by htg engineer
The radiator is heating when the Hot Water only is selected.
The 'heat sink' which is at least one radiator with x2 lockshileds valves, and the rest with TRV's, is a 'heat sink' for the central heating to protect the boiler. And for combi's where the excess heat from the boiler when the hot water is heated - is lost down the central heating flow.
A heat sink on a gravity or fully pumped system is also required if TRV's are fitted .
However this is not the problem here, it's is a gravity hot water system.
The only difference between the central heating being on and the hot water, is when the heating is on the pump is running. The primary flow is above the heating flow, and is a larger diameter pipe, when the water is heated it rises. As the pipe is at the top of the heat exchanger and is the larger diameter pipe the water will travel up this pipe.
Even when they were new installations, heat found it's way up the heating flow and the upstairs radiators would get warm. As the system gets older there's more restrictions/friction in the primaries and more heat escapes up the heating flow.
You can prevent this, by altering the pipework where the heating flow leaves the boiler, if you form a 'trap' in the pipework (an elbow down before allowing the pipe to rise. The heating will still work as the pump will circulate the water. But it will stop the natural circulation up the central heating flow when Hot Water only is selected.
htg