by BLAKEY1963 »
Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:46 pm
[quote="ericmark"]Thank you sparkydude I had not realised the guidance notes had been re-released I suppose I must order up a set. I had seen guide to 17th edition has now been released.
I agree with you that it was inappropriate to suggest that a DIY person should under take this work and your comments were appropriate to what had been said.
But we are all trying to help and what LADAMAN348 said although silly was not wrong he did refer to "hermetic connections" and to me that's a proper cable joint.
I will agree many sparks borrow my 120mm crimp pliers as they have non of their own and the chances of any DIY person doing this is slim and really hydraulic crimpers would be required. And to have added a post to inform the DIY man that the equipment required to make this joint would cost around £80 to hire and was not really an option would have been fair. But comments like “I would like to know wether or not you are a qualified spark” were uncalled for and to be honest who but a qualified spark would have worked with cold cast joints? And as to “I stand by my advice and suggest you read peoples posts more thoroughly before jumping on them” Sorry I must apologise if you feel I was having a go at you I was not your comments were very much in line with my own thoughts but I do feel Topspark was “jumping on” Ladaman348 had Topspark commented as you did in the original post that this was bad advise then that would have been excusable but a separate post with the whole purpose of “jumping on” Ladaman348 to my mine is well out of order especially considering that when tattled he has only been able to quote out of date and inappropriate regulations. I have made mistakes and Sparkx has pointed them out in a nice gentlemen fashion which is how it should be. There is no need for what a consider as an abusive post.
Eric[/quote]
ERICMARK
Good day 2 u kind sir hope u r well , its BLAKEY1963.
I have just caught up with this post as a add on from
saerz post about breaking into a shower cable for
two sockets in a loft. I want 2 add a few comments.
AS u could see i responded to the post along with topspark.
my post appeared first , untill topsparks was moderated.
saezr i think was ok with our advice and safely
Acknowledges to run a new circuit.
THE gentleman Mephistico and Sparkydude along with
Topspark and now myslef ( I AM LOOKING AT GN1 AS I
WRITE ) acknowledge that the shower circuit is and
should ideally be kept as a dedicated separate circuit .
Ladaman 348 s post was looked at and if topspark ,
mephistico , sparkydude and i can be of use to saezr
and indeed the gentleman Ladaman 348
our info has come from guidance note 1 which is one
of the publications , part p registered sparks quote
from as well as guidance note 3 ,7 , and BS 7671 : 2008
AND osg.
Looking at topsparks background , he is part p registered
with the E.C.A ( SAME AS OUR EXCELLENT ADVISER SPARX)
I as u know am part p registered with N.I.C.E.I.C.
I have seen persons who have sadly lost thier lives due to
electrical fires due 2 unapropiate wiring installation.
I am sure eric u as well as topspark, and myslef have seen
awful examples of wiring which have had to be condemmed
to protect the safety of the owner .
To conclude i know u thought topsparks advice might
possibly b concieved as abuse , but as qualified part
P contracters , we r committed 2 the saftey of the
general public , and have 2 comment or act in thier best
intrests , and in this case , i think topspark did not want
to see a tragic situation coming out of that post.
As i have said 2 u in another of your posts , giving advice
is about interpretation , and we only do it for the safety
of the consumer. u r a very good source of information
Eric and i learn from u on a daily basis , i hope u
continue 2 contribute , but i think topspark was only
acting on the safety of the consumer (Person who made
the post ).
BLAKEY1963
