Oak beam calculation to support existing joists - help
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:25 pm
Any help would be appreciated.
Property dates from 1850s and as such the joists in the old part of house do not confirm to current regs - not a problem as they are sturdy enough.
Problem has come as have just built new extension and cut door on first floor into new extension. To esnure the floor height upstairs is te same as existing house and that the ceiling height downstairs is not too low (remember this is an old cottage with low ceilings !) I have used C24 graded joists.
The joists span a distance of 3800mm and centres are 400mm apart. The joists measure 45mm wide by 120mm deep . The building Inspector is refusing to pass the beams as states they are not suitable for the span and I should have installed deaper beams (That would have meant that joist would have been below height of windows and meant the rear door wouldnt open!!)
An option that I have would be to install one, thick green oak beam running at right angles to the existing beams. I would like to cut this beam into the existing joists albeit not fully only by 2 inch or so, so that I can then plasterboard between joists and keep the cottage look as per rest of house. The ideal centre for the beam would be 1950mm from one edge of the 3800 span ie,just off centre. The beam would have to span a distance of 3200mm to run at right angles to existing joists and be fixed into wall at each end, one wall is stone, the other concrete block.
Building Inspector states I should take into account the fire superficial timber when calculating the size of the beam ??
Is there a simple table that anyone can direct me too or assist with calculations required.
thanks in advance. Ian
Property dates from 1850s and as such the joists in the old part of house do not confirm to current regs - not a problem as they are sturdy enough.
Problem has come as have just built new extension and cut door on first floor into new extension. To esnure the floor height upstairs is te same as existing house and that the ceiling height downstairs is not too low (remember this is an old cottage with low ceilings !) I have used C24 graded joists.
The joists span a distance of 3800mm and centres are 400mm apart. The joists measure 45mm wide by 120mm deep . The building Inspector is refusing to pass the beams as states they are not suitable for the span and I should have installed deaper beams (That would have meant that joist would have been below height of windows and meant the rear door wouldnt open!!)
An option that I have would be to install one, thick green oak beam running at right angles to the existing beams. I would like to cut this beam into the existing joists albeit not fully only by 2 inch or so, so that I can then plasterboard between joists and keep the cottage look as per rest of house. The ideal centre for the beam would be 1950mm from one edge of the 3800 span ie,just off centre. The beam would have to span a distance of 3200mm to run at right angles to existing joists and be fixed into wall at each end, one wall is stone, the other concrete block.
Building Inspector states I should take into account the fire superficial timber when calculating the size of the beam ??
Is there a simple table that anyone can direct me too or assist with calculations required.
thanks in advance. Ian